obviously the next debate down in kentucky, the vice presidential debate. that should be interesting with vice president biden and congressman ryan. vice president biden was on the trail today as well talking tax policy. listen carefully to how he describes the attacks on the obama-biden tax plan. >> on top of the trillion dollars of spending we've already cut, we're going to ask, yes, we're going to ask the wealthy to pay more. my heart breaks. come on, man. you know the phrase you always use, obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard, we want to let that trillion dollars tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burdens of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax rate. that's called fairness where i come from! >> bret: the potential for a republican commercial to end at yes, we do, charles, is pretty high. >> how much are our guys paying him, because it isn't enough. this guy is terrific for us. the gaffe here isn't only the trillion dollars, it's the part where he calls -